Are Both The JW And The Ex-JW Community a Cult?

by Vanderhoven7 in

charlie ryde writes:.

let us use the same bite model for determining if something is a cult to both being a jw and being ex-jw.

mind you this is a short summary.. b- behavioral control.

stan livedeath

Charlie Ryde

i wonder if thats his/her real name--or where they live ?

I live in Ryde--but its not me.

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mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

by enoughisenough in

maybe this has been discussed in the past and i wasn't here... what do you think?

are the gb members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur?

i will go out on a limb here to say that i think they are con artist.

mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

yes!

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

stan livedeath

That’s how we at JW see it. You have your view.

i always smile at the use of the Royal "we" referring to the closed exclusive brotherhood of the barmy army.

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Staying in physically for all the benefits

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.

stan livedeath

i cant imagine staying in that cult by choice when you dont have to. You can believe in your god and read your bible all day long without being a fake member of that phoney religious charade.

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Staying in physically for all the benefits

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.

stan livedeath

Indoubtbigtime

What i dont get about you is--why ?

Ok--to you jehovah is real--because you think he is. Thats all--

Did you mention previously that you fear him. Why ? Do you think he will strike you dead if you dont ?

My understanding is there is only one god ( to all of you that believe in him ) so why does it matter where you choose to worship him? Have you ever come across a religion that claims to be false ?

You mention you are " old aged"--have you always been a JW ? Were you born in to it ?

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Hour requirements

by dothemath in

i recall having to go in the ministry, not just saturday but strongly encouraged to go out sunday after the meeting.

then they had the lame idea to organize evening witnessing, or maybe before the midweek book study.

it could be minus 40 and there would still be a group organized.

stan livedeath

“evening witnessing”

definitely, before the tuesday evening group book study--i used to go--as a kid--on my own. My parents basically let me get on with it. This was in Handsworth--in Birmingham UK--early 1960's.

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Everyone else burns new UK sitcom

by Mickey mouse in

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friends

i'm looking forward to this, having watched a trailer i think ex-jws will enjoy it https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/comedy/everyone-else-burns-simon-bird-first-look-exclusive-newsupdate/.

stan livedeath

which channel is it on please ?

edit--found it. Channel 4--mondays 10 pm

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How do JWs know that millions who were martyred as Christians before the 20th century did not have the heavenly hope?

by Vanderhoven7 in

as i understand it, jehovah’s witnesses believe less than 145,000 faithful christians existed prior to the twentieth century.

the other sheep christians did not start forming until after 1914. that means jehovah’s witnesses view millions martyred for their faith in christ prior to the 20th century as merely professed christians.. the question is…how do witnesses know that those millions who perished for their faith in christ were not christians at all?.

stan livedeath

i'm slightly curious if any other religions teach this 2 class system--with 144,000 going to heaven--and all other followers missing that bus.

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Research paper on Effects of Shunning

by peacefulpete in

after being around this site for 21 years now, i've heard many recount their stories and feelings.

many times i can immediately relate but other times they seem to have had a very different experience with the church.

i'm sure that is because not only are all of us different in personality, but congregations and family dynamics vary as well.

stan livedeath

pah--i;m atheist--and happy with it.

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Research paper on Effects of Shunning

by peacefulpete in

after being around this site for 21 years now, i've heard many recount their stories and feelings.

many times i can immediately relate but other times they seem to have had a very different experience with the church.

i'm sure that is because not only are all of us different in personality, but congregations and family dynamics vary as well.

stan livedeath

Yours maybe. Certainly not mine

stan livedeath

Posts by stan livedeath

mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

i always smile at the use of the Royal "we" referring to the closed exclusive brotherhood of the barmy army.

Indoubtbigtime

What i dont get about you is--why ?